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[FIXED] [Paladin] [Retribution] Convergence Of Fates vs Crusade

 
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Post Posted: 14-02-2019, 04:34:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/item_finder.php?item=140806&&name=convergence-of-fates
Bug description: It has incorrect proc per minute,it procs only twice per 2 minutes which ends up reducing cd by 10 sec only.
How to reproduce: Equip COF and use this macro:
/cast Crusade
/sw 120
/sw play

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Post Posted: 14-02-2019, 09:33:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I can test this in the evening, but what I know does Avenging Wrath have 200% better proc than Crusade as blizz scripted it that way.
Playing with cof too on my ret I usually get 20-40 sec reduce on crusade, which looked fine for me.
Still you can have bad luck fights with almost 0 proc.

The 3.0 RPPM noted on the tooltip might be the overal factor and Crusade,Avenging Wrath calculate their own proc chance with that base number

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Post Posted: 14-02-2019, 12:50:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

But from what I've seen on retail CoF is not RPPM it is PPM, every source says PPM. So it may be a problem I guess.

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Post Posted: 14-02-2019, 16:15:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

what i know is everything rppm since mop. PPM is just a term people are used to as it simply reflects their experience. "I get 3 procs per minute".

RPPM is basically an enhanced ppm system with badluck mechanism. Everytime you fail a proc your chance increases by certain amount equivalent to the RPPM factor.
So with 3 rppm the badluck mechanism gives you 3 proccs worst case in theory.

As crusade is nerfed and avenging wrath is buffed their individual rppm is not 3.
More like 1.5 for crusade and 4 using avenging.

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Post Posted: 14-02-2019, 17:09:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

1.5 for crusade is the same i found on sites but idk if it is correct or first version of cof since there were many changes and this one was the first(1.5ppm) and 3ppm more recent one, if it turns out true (1.5 ppm), then it should be fixed for all classes and spells since certain classes get incorrect amount of procs which is quite higher than supposed and also change the tooltip on trinket in shop,since it is false advertisement then if the numbers dont fit.
Also im gonna try and test it more today,since i didn't have much time last night.

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Post Posted: 14-02-2019, 17:21:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://www.wowhead.com/item=140806/convergence-of-fates&&bonus=3514:1472#comments

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Paladin
Retribution: Avenging Wrath 4.2 PPM
Alternative: Crusade ~1.5 PPM

https://www.wowhead.com/news=259363/patch-7-1-5-hotfixes-for-january-18th

Convergence of Fates: now activates 70% less often for Retribution Paladins (other specs unaffected).

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Post Posted: 15-02-2019, 03:27:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Like i said if that is the template they are using fix the trinket for every class and spec not just for paladins and change the tooltip on shop.
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Post Posted: 23-02-2019, 19:43:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quicksand will check cof proccs for all classes. Tooltip can't show the correct one for wings/crusade as wowhead tooltip also just says 3rppm.


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Post Posted: 23-02-2019, 19:44:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/94cb31706ee641f7741e8d435e285ef5cf1eb176/engine/player/sc_unique_gear_x7.cpp#L4259

Blizzard messed up some RPPM data for CoF according to simc, which is why you have issues with it. i'll recheck all coefficients for all specs

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Post Posted: 26-03-2019, 16:04:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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