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[FIXED] [PvE] [Harjatan][Mythic] Jagged Abrasion

 
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Post Posted: 03-02-2019, 13:09:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=231998&&&&name=jagged-abrasion
Bug description: Jagged Abrasion seems to be ignoring Armor on Mythic, I'm not sure if it's ignoring other sources of Physical reduction. As far as I can tell, only Versatility Damage Reduction was applying for our tanks.
Proof: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AHC6mtQM9gf7GkBD#fight=8&&&&type=damage-taken&&&&view=timeline&&&&target=40&&&&ability=231998

You can analyze those logs in 20 different ways for the relevant information, I linked damage taken by the ability on a timeline so you can specifically see how many stacks are on the tanks.

At 5 stacks, our Blood DK was taking about 6 Million damge per tick, perfectly consistent with the Dungeon Journal if physical reduction is in fact not working.


I looked at some other similar Tank Debuffs and Rend Flesh https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=204859&&&&name=rend-flesh is not classified as a Bleed Mechanic, so perhaps it's a simple database error.

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Post Posted: 04-02-2019, 12:38:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Our dk tank got about 230 million damage on him in about 3 min, with ticks bigger than 5 million on 4-5 stacks. This is the main problem of this boss, it kills our 959 tanks...
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Post Posted: 04-02-2019, 20:49:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

We did some investigations about this, and the conclusion is:

- The spell has a DoT effect (EFFECT_0) + if you look more closely you will also see that has Mechanic: Bleed applied on that effect, meaning that will ignore armor.

- So how do we know that it should ignore armor, well, first thing first, that Mechanic: Bleed came from blizz, when they apply that mechanic on the effect rather than the whole spell it means that it should ignore armor, blizz does that vary rare (putting the mechanic on the effect).

If you can come up with more detailed proof from retail we can change that easily.

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Post Posted: 04-02-2019, 22:29:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I just took a log from retail from Harjatan
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3NTcJX9dK7mH41RP#fight=10&type=damage-taken&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24damage%241%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%24133027349.0.0.DeathKnight%24false%240&view=events

Here u can see that the tanks are taking nowhere close to 1.2 Milion damage a tick from the debuff so it must be reduced by armor.

A photo from the log: https://imgur.com/a/H8LC4em

You can see that the first ticks in the encounter which must be at 1 stack did not do 1.2 Milion damage

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Post Posted: 04-02-2019, 22:33:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Here is a video from a guardian druid, he gets 2 mil ticks on 5 stacks. Watch the whole video, he never gets bigger ticks even with 6 stacks.Watch and see that when they get the second stack of ironfur the damage goes way down. When he has 3 stacks of ironfur the damage goes to 700-800 k per tick with 5 stacks. The damage they take is proportional to the number of stacks of ironfur they have. That means damage is reduced by armor.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TVRK6LGoHJI&t=127:


https://youtube.com/watch?v=8HFwqDAdGgE:




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Post Posted: 04-02-2019, 23:12:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I doubt that Mechanic: Bleed came from Blizz when you can clearly check Wowhead and see that there is no Mechanic: Bleed.

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=231998/jagged-abrasion

There is also piles of evidence (logs, videos) indicating that physical mitigation should be working.

Now I'm curious.. exactly where do you guys do your fact checking?

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Post Posted: 05-02-2019, 08:35:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Uchoo wrote:
I doubt that Mechanic: Bleed came from Blizz when you can clearly check Wowhead and see that there is no Mechanic: Bleed.


I opened your link just to find this so I guess there is bleed even mentioned on wowhead:

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Post Posted: 05-02-2019, 12:20:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Found a blood dk blood pov. 3,4 mil damege per tick with 5 stacks. He gets up to 8 stacks and does not seem to mind. And he has 8,3 mil health. Our 959 dk tank with bis gear that is impossible to get on retail, that can't survive 6 stacks is crying.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hX-C5OAkvz0:


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Post Posted: 05-02-2019, 18:02:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Fixed, live.
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