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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 14:31:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz item link: https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/xaavius
Bug description: donated items titanforged don't have tertiary stats /extrasoket
Proof:
https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/xaavius
https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/Denim
https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/Maev
etc

as they are called in wow shop bis items they shlould have best tertiary stats /extra sokets


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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 14:37:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

We know about this, however dealing with this situation is extremely complicated and we're open to ideas.
- Allowing donors to choose their tertiary stats could cause some extremely imbalanced situations (imagine a full donated player with full Leech stat => full healer)
- Making the donated items award randomly: either tertiary stat OR prismatic socket OR nothing could cause rages ("omg i didnt get any tertiary but X got it")
- Making the donated items award randomly: either tertiary stat OR prismatic socket might be an idea, but that would still allow a full donated player to be full tertiary/prismatic socket

Any input on this is welcome

UPDATE: I also checked retail top characters, most players have only 2-3-4 tertiary stuffs (stats or prismatic sockets) on their full char


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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 14:40:59 [Bad post] | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Shocker wrote:
We know about this, however dealing with this situation is extremely complicated and we're open to ideas.
- Allowing donors to choose their tertiary stats could cause some extremely imbalanced situations (imagine a full donated player with full Leech stat => full healer)
- Making the donated items award randomly: either tertiary stat OR prismatic socket OR nothing could cause rages ("omg i didnt get any tertiary but X got it")
- Making the donated items award randomly: either tertiary stat OR prismatic socket might be an idea, but that would still allow a full donated player to be full tertiary/prismatic socket

Any input on this is welcome


well since this is a private server and also it needs funds for its own maintenance and other costs you should allow players to change ther items with the best tertiary stats .
i mean i as player who donated i want the best and i think no player wants to pay for items that are low

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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 14:44:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

zbaam wrote:

well since this is a private server and also it needs funds for its own maintenance and other costs you should allow players to change ther items with the best tertiary stats .
i mean i as player who donated i want the best and i think no player wants to pay for items that are low
Please stop thinking at this from your perspective, you're not helping at all, and actually read my arguments. If we were to consider your "arguments" we can give donors items with +999999999999 stats.


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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 14:59:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

i am a donor mate ? what is the problem ? you gave me(us) donor(s) the option to choose the best items so why would i donate to get items with bad stats?
do you think that any player that wants or is thinking to buy items from your shop wants average items? tha answer is no .

and p.s how are we going to solve the problem since i have donated for full char bis items ? cause i want items bis not average : https://armory.wow-freakz.com/character/felsong/xaavius my char



Update @ 25-10-2017, 14:59:39

also if u want to get back some feedback on this matter you should mail every player that has donated and ask for their opinion tough i doubt that you will get a different answer / idea .



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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 15:03:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Please actually read my arguments and stop ranting. Allowing a player to have full leech on a full char for example that would mean 35% heal on damage dealt => GOD MODE / UNKILLABLE! You donated for BIS char and you got BIS char, but what you're asking is not BIS, that's CUSTOM ITEMS and we won't have it.

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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 15:04:20 [Valuable post] | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

We understand, but even though you donated and we appreciate it, we won't allow you to reach levels that are normally impossible to reach without donating. Defeats the purpose of fair play. Not even the most dedicated and best players from retail have more than 4-5 items with socket and/or tertiary stats. As Shocker said, based on the same principle that "donors should get the best" we could just start giving out items with iLvl 1200. Half of the server's population would leave...

We will most likely come up with an idea that's good with donors and with us as well. Give us time and meet us half way.

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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 15:10:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Shocker wrote:
Please actually read my arguments and stop ranting. Allowing a player to have full leech on a full char for example that would mean 35% heal on damage dealt => GOD MODE / UNKILLABLE! You donated for BIS char and you got BIS char, but what you're asking is not BIS, that's CUSTOM ITEMS and we won't have it.


ok mate so if on blizzard u have players with maximum 5 items than allow us donors to have the option to choose 5 items with whatever we want , this way we meet halfway as quicksand said .

also regarding myself i will speak with u in private as i have some issues with my char

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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 15:50:34 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

so are we going to get atleast 4 items with whatever tertiary stats ? are u going to give us option to choose?
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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 16:08:34 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ok , a five items cap it's ok and I think that no more than 2 items with the same tertiary stat would not be gamebraking .


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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 16:43:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

i agree with that as long as normal players don't get the same amount of items with the same stats as us
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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 18:19:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

What do you mean normal people should not get items with the same stats as us?
Why do you donate? So that players who can't afford/don't want to donate have less chances than you? I think you are missing the point of donation.

You already have access to get full 895 gear through donation where on retail probably not even 0.1% manage to achieve that.

If its not too hard to customise you can award one tertiary stats + socket to choose per 3 4 items donated.



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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 19:05:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Garn wrote:
What do you mean normal people should not get items with the same stats as us?
Why do you donate? So that players who can't afford/don't want to donate have less chances than you? I think you are missing the point of donation.

You already have access to get full 895 gear through donation where on retail probably not even 0.1% manage to achieve that.

If its not too hard to customise you can award one tertiary stats + socket to choose per 3 4 items donated.


what i mean? i mean if shockeru decides to set a limit of 4 or 5 items with those stats players shouldn't be able to obtain more than us in game , they should have the same limit as us

thank you .

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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 19:35:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

They shouldn't obtain more because what, they can't swipe their card like you do?
Come on, be reasonable. Such a request is pathetic.



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Post Posted: 25-10-2017, 19:41:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

at least give us sokets for items..easy like day light..!!!

im a donor as well 1.4k$ on this SV and some times i think why the heck i still donate .....if i get the same items like other players [non donors]...i don't need leech just sokets will be just fine.

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